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Conversation: Whosoever Confides in Jesus is Saved
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Why would I explain seems to be


a holy leader: a holy leader of some to hell. who? those who end up in hell. why? whose decision is it that people go to hell? God's. Who is all powerful but chose not to guide? God. So God does not guide all OR he guides some to hell. IF he did not guide all, why should they be punished forever
I would say that is corrupt, God in punishing people forever will make Hitler's actions look like minor evil


Noah found grace and whoelse entered the ark? It was warned and the storm came. Who else found grace?



guiding everyone now means accepting bribes? I thought this was love.
It seems the followers of Jesus think otherwise

As u trust in Jesus Noah trusted God


His family reportedly. Maybe they bribed
To torture people forever is more evil than Hitler, i would say to associate God with such things is incorrect and any scripture which does is incorrect also
There is no eternal hell
Scripture can be wrong, so can the religion you are taught.

U know what is interesting. We are finite. Which means we must serve an eternal sentence. Once we were immortal. Satan offered that we would be as Gods. Subtle. Did u see that? It sounds like we will be Gods but we will be as one or like one. Were we not made in the image of God? Satan offered that we would be enlightened. Couls we not seek God for wisdom.

Yet could they have not commanded the serpent to leave?


(We are infinite*?) I did not see Satan offer that we would be Gods. No. Just because scripture says we were made in the image of God does not mean we were made in the image of God.
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***Interjection*** (mid-comment)

Genesis 3:1-6 (specifically 5) note: Satan's use of ambiguity and inclusion of truth to persuade and decieve.

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Until iniquity was found in him (Ezekiel 28:15), Satan was perfect (Ezekiel 28:15), as was all God’s creation (Genesis 1:31). He once walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire upon the holy mountain of God as a covering cherub (Ezekiel 28:14, 16). Observing that he was second to God, Satan said in his his heart “I will be like the most high” if not greater (Isaiah 14:12-14), seeing himself as God or his equal (Ezekiel 28:1-19). He became corrupted by reason of his brightness and his heart was lifted up by his perfect beauty, riches, and his fullness of wisdom (that obtained riches) (Ezekiel 28:1-19).

John 8:44 
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1 Peter 5:8
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Note: 1 Timothy 3:6
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

“I will be like the most high” vs "ye shall be as gods"

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(We are infinite*?)": No, our life was given by God. As we had turned away from the giver of life we entered death, as too by sin and death by sin, by sin did we enter death. Again I say, Proverbs 8:36, But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

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There are multiple religions and multiple scriptures. They can be incorrect.
Perhaps yours is

After u trust that God made all things u trust all of God`s word. He made man in the image of God. In the image of God he made he them man: male and female.


When you see it is contradictory, perhaps it is time today to realise this, maybe not, hopefully tomorrow then etc.

At the end of the day: nothing in my hands I brimg simply to the cross I cling.


Why would i trust in a God that supposedly punishes people he does not guide forever
?
Do you want people to be punished forever?


._.

U know I am just clinging to Jesus. It would be great that everyone be saved and have everlsting life.


So God is not perfect, because he does not do that

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***Interjection***

Matthew 18:11-14
11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 
12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 
13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 
14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Luke 15:3-7 
3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, 
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

And like the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32): who asked for and squandered his inheritance before his father’s death, was on the streets, tempted to eat pigs’ food, thinking that he could return home as a servant and no longer deserving to be a son, and was celebrated in open arms for his return; we too can return to God who awaits everyday for us to return home. Once, dead, now alive again, once, lost, and now found.

Luke 15:10
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

John 10:27-28 (KJV) 
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

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Does not do what?

Everyone has their own account

Everyone has their own accord



God is not perfect. Nothing is better than perfect.
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***Interjection*** (mid-comment)

This reminds me of a comment form another converstation:
What is "wisely" if God DEFINES the concept of being wisely? You tell it me as if God is OBEDIENT to this concept, as if the Concept of Wisdom is ABOVE God.

My reply:
wisdom is the "ability to judge correctly and to follow the best course of action, based on knowledge and understanding" Wisdom isn`t something that rules over God. Wisdom is something that Gods has/owns.

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God does not guide everyone. He could. IF all powerful. And that would be "great"
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"great"...you are right, I should be more excited.
If everyone was redeemed by Jesus and therefore had everlasting life, all people had everlasting life, that would be

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That would be better?
Certainly better than punishing forever

What would be better....yes it would be if everyone confided and went to heaven


So God would be better (meaning he is not perfect as he is, because nothing is better than perfect) if he used his all powerfulness to guide everyone. Why doesn't God chose to be better and guide everyone?


Cos they ignore him........


So God is all powerful enough to TRY to guide everyone but not powerful enough to ACTUALLY guide everyone?

What do u mean by guide?


to guide everyone (to heaven or worthiness of heaven and not eternal hell)
make that the final outcome

Whosoever confides in Jesus is saved. Is that not everyone?


Supposedly no
and God likes to punish people forever for being bad for 100/1000/however many

What do u mean by worthiness?

Even our righteousnesses r as filthy rags


final outcome/judgement

U know eternal life is rejected for eternal death


Nope

U cannot serve two masters. God or not God.

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I wouldn't know all truth from a contradictory God
that religion describing such a God is falsehood
THOSE religionS
God is not religion

We cannot earn our way to heaven. The work of Jesus is a gift. U cannot earn a gift. U can only accept one.


not multiple religions which contradict
nor 1 religion which contradicts

If we tried to earn our way we are cursed as we have dorfeited grace. The gift.


Today, if not, tomorrow, etc, understand that quoting what are said to be all truths from a contradictory scripture is idle

God is not the author of confusion. Jesues is the way the truth and the life.


then God is not the author of what you are quoting

Maybe not. But the creator is.


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In case of Confusion ._.
***Interjection***

This was a brief way of saying that what I am quoting was not authored by your God/god; the God/god in your heart is not the God who authored the word.

Ezekiel 14:1-8

4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; 
5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.


God is timeless (Genesis 1, Proverbs 8, Isaiah 46:9-11, Ecclesiastes 3:11, Revelation 1:8, 4:8, 21:6, 22:13). He is eternal.  He has no beginning and no end. He is from everlasting to everlasting (Psalm 90:2). He is unchanging (Numbers 23:19, Job 23:13, Psalm 55:19, 102:27, Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 1:12, 6:17-19, 13:8, James 1:17). HE IS THAT HE IS (Exodus 3:14). Before him there was no God formed, neither shall there be after him (Isaiah 43:10). He is the first and the last and besides him there is no God (Isaiah 44:6, Deuteronomy 4:35, 1 Kings 8:60, 1 Chronicls 17:20, 1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Timothy 2:5-6, James 2:19).

Exodus 20:3-6 (also Deuteronomy 5:7-10)
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

 Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 
38 This is the first and great commandment. 
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

 Mark 12:29-31
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

(also Luke 10:25-28)

God has been customised, fashioned after fantasies, to be convenient rather than genuine. He has disclosed his character and traits in his word.

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Then the creator is a fool
I choose to believe not so
I choose to not believe in foolish scripture
Nor eternal hell

Only the creator would be the type to die in your place.


I choose to not believe, that God is love and eternal hell can make sense, because they do not

Romans 5:6-9 (KJV) 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.


I do not need the creator to die in my place
You are still making the mistake of quoting contradictory scripture

Those who say they r without sin r lyers. Do not deny urself eternity in heaven


Contradictory scripture of a not loving God stating I need the creator to die in my place does not make me believe so and if it did i would be foolish and mislead
Mislead by people

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


cleanse from all unrighteousness but not cleanse all
wants to punish

If

If

If

We do so

Whosoever


there is a hell

Then get out


if? if there is a hell, cleanse from all unrighteousness but not cleanse all
when have the power to do so

If we confess


so wants to punish
so not love

If if if we confess our sins


your God is not love

Whosoever confides shall be saved


does not guide all to confess sins
CHOOSES for the punishment to be forever
wants to punish

Have they not been told that they r to confess and to confide

Have they done so?

Whosoever does shall be saved


if
God does not want to punish
is "God all powerful enough to TRY to guide everyone but not powerful enough to ACTUALLY guide everyone?"

You r wanting him to guide u to confess. Has he?


I feel no need to confess to anyone
because a contradictory scripture states to
or multiple

If we. And u do not. As we said. It is not a requirement.
But it is the one way to God


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***Interjection***

I feel no need to confess to anyone
I do not need the creator to die in my place
cleanse from all unrighteousness but not cleanse all
does not guide all to confess sinss
"God all powerful enough to TRY to guide everyone but not powerful enough to ACTUALLY guide everyone?"

In case of Confusion ._.


So basically we cannot save ourselves

On our own accord taking the responsibility

We will perish

Yeah

._.

But [death] twice is a choice

Whosoever comes to Jesus and confides in him shall be saves

If u look at yourself and not Jesua it is pointless

U gotta hold Jesus as a foundation

But it is the one way to God

Jesus is the door

Through him u shall see the father

And God`s patience is not like man`s that wavers

If we live by the law we forfeit grace. We cannot rely on ourselves. Jesus is the only way.

Whosoever comes and confides in Jesus shall be saved

That is the hope

As I said earlier. He can inform us but it is not our decision

...

What

(correction) But it is not his decision

It is our action and choice

As they would leave life for death so too do they leave for the torture invloved.

Forever is according to law. Those who live by the law and keep it not are cursed. Those who live by the law forfeit grace.

So God would be better (meaning he is not perfect as he is, because nothing is better than perfect) if he used his all powerfulness to guide everyone. Why doesn't God chose to be better and guide everyone?

Cos they ignore him........

Whosoever confides in Jesus is saved. Is that not everyone?

Supposedly no

and God likes to punish people forever for being bad for 100/1000/however many

U know eternal life is rejected for eternal death

Nope

We cannot earn our way to heaven. The work of Jesus is a gift. U cannot earn a gift. U can only accept one.


._. uhuh ... righto ...

there is a hell

Then get out

 
This was one of the pivotal moments, You r wanting him to guide u to confess. Has he?, where the guy could not answer me for a while.
I wonder why ._. ... ?
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